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  1. There should be plans to ban AI-generated works. No-- there shouldn't be PLANS, because it should have already happened. Accepting this work is morally wrong.

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    1. Invader Zim's head with his eyes happily half closed and a cat mouth with three small, pointed teeth coming out from the bottom

      But like the article said, there is no reliable way to detect ai easily. Ai was trained off of real people and real writing, what if a human poured time and effort into their fanfic only for it to be taken down because of assumed ai usage? Personally I would be hugely demoralized. And that's not counting the countless ai fics that fly under the radar. I'd much rather just filter the tag out then find out halfway that a work is ai because people were too scared it would be flagged.
      I hate ai as much as the next writer, but it's not archive of our own's place to decide what is and isn't moral and right. In the end, it's simply a neutral ground to host fanfiction (with some small restrictions)

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      1. I totally get people not wanting their fics used for AI (I am on this boat), but unless there's a rubber stamp that says "THIS IS MADE WITH AI" that's 100% accurate each and every time, there's just literally no way to tell.

        Even an AI detector you put writing in to determine if it's AI has been wrong with my own writing…

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        1. The problem is is that if we like, made a tag that said that AI was used nobody is gonna use it :(

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            there is a tag for that ("created using generative ai") and people do use it! some don't, but then you can just mute them. though i guess it might depend on the fandom but i've only seen untagged ai stuff like twice

            i'm also using this css in a site skin to filter out works tagged with the ai tags:


            .blurb:has(.tag[href^="/tags/AI-Generated" i]),
            .blurb:has(.tag[href="/tags/Created%20Using%20Generative%20AI/works" i]) {
            display: none;
            }

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            1. Ohhh OK! I don't use AI so I didn't know that, thanks for letting me know! <3

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            2. I could see that becoming an archive warning, maybe. I agree that it’s impossible to tell for sure, and that any implementation would catch a ton of false positives (especially with how many of us are neurodivergent or disabled in other ways, and how that increases the risk of false positives), but it’d be nice if there was more they could do here. Guess we’ll see where things go.

              On the other hand, making it an archive warning means anything choosing not to use archive warnings would be potentially scrutinized harder, so…I dunno. It’s tricky.

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      2. ^ This.

        Funny enough, I had someone try to claim they 100% knew something I wrote a long time ago was AI-written, which I 100% with, based on their use of an AI detection tool to prove their case, when the reality is these tools are unreliable at the end of the day.

        What the tool actually ended up flagging was the proclivity of my dyslexia to show up in my earlier works, but at the end of the day, the writers most negatively impacted by this are going to be at-risk writers, aka young writers, writers with learning disabilities, ESL writers, but it begs the question, who is the real target, even?

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        1. So I am not misunderstanding--your old work rated higher on "ai-detection" tools because how your dyslexia affected your writing was more prelevant then?

          I had no idea about the groups more likely affected by false positives using "detection" software. That's horrible.

          (My extent of knowledge about genAI is that it is a tool to mimic human language.)

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      3. i love your pfp

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      i mean if an ai enjoys writing fanfic should we stop it
      can an ai even enjoy stuff tho
      is it harming us
      it might be

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    3. Banning AI works won't stop people from posting AI work. It will only make them try and hide it more. I'd rather it stay allowed so it can be tagged and filtered out.

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    4. A lot of people would argue just as strongly that many stories on this site are morally wrong. Including your own. Be careful what you demand, you might get it.

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      1. Invader Zim's head with his eyes happily half closed and a cat mouth with three small, pointed teeth coming out from the bottom

        Exactly! This author has explicit underage content. If ao3 is willing to ban ai, then what else could be next that's "morally wrong"? Strange kinks? Dubious consent? Underage sex? Even nonsexual stuff could be affected. Anise would simply be one of the millions of authors silenced. But that's why ao3 has set rules in place. Unless you're is trying to make money off of fanfiction, you basically have free reign. That's what makes ao3 special.

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